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PostPosted: November 29th, 2007, 3:59 am 
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Sara, the blonde girl in "Ima soko ni iru boku", was a hard emotional clubbing for me.
Context is all that matters. :D

I just figured out which anime you were talking about...

Oh my god... don't remind me of that. That scene made me feel like crap for a VERY long time. It's one of the main reasons I stopped watching it, although I didn't like anything else either, including visuals, story and dub. I would rather stick my head in a garbage can for 25 minutes than watch another episode of that shit.

This really escapes me; Why would anyone WANT to feel depressed? That seems to be the reason why people like it.

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Sometimes, regular old consensual just doesn't seem to satisfy certain deeper inner desires. So you just want some rape and abuse.... and stuff. Sometimes it bothers me, but other times it doesn't. It really depends on when and your current state of mind.

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This really escapes me; Why would anyone WANT to feel depressed? That seems to be the reason why people like it.


The point of an anime that ENDS sad, is so that you can learn to appreciate the little things that was happy BEFORE the end arrives. Ever stopped to consider you WILL die one day? that's a sad and depressing end for you isn't it? :roll:

What matters is your life, not your end. I like depressing titles because they often show a lot of life before getting there, makes you feel every little thing precious, and also makes me mad at myself for being depressed for stupid stuff IRL ;)

Several of the titles I would put inside a possible "top 10" list have sad endings, not that I want to watch the end again, but the title itself is so pretty. I won't quote some of them now since it would spoil it's a bad ending, but trust me, a lot of people love them because of that.

Storm_Shinobi: totally true what you mentioned!

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This really escapes me; Why would anyone WANT to feel depressed? That seems to be the reason why people like it.

The point of an anime that ENDS sad, is so that you can learn to appreciate the little things that was happy BEFORE the end arrives. Ever stopped to consider you WILL die one day? that's a sad and depressing end for you isn't it? :roll:

Thats not what I meant. NTHT doesn't seem to have anything but depression all the way through, so I wasn't JUST talking about ending. I have no problems with sad endings.

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Princess 69 (...) made the girls look like they were around 16 years old

It's set at a Highschool - they ARE 16-18yo! :D

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A woman would rather die than to get raped

I guess that depends on the situation AND the individual woman.

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bite it off

Not really a quote, but I'll use it like this.
1. I don't know how many (real) guys are stupid enough to order blowjobs as part of a rape.
2. I don't know how many (real) girls would really bite it despite being, most likely, intimidated.
He might say "If you bite it, I'll kill you!" That's an ultimate threat.

But if the victims, as you implied, value their self-esteem higher than their life, there should be a number of penisses gone amiss during a criminal fiscal year, so to speak. Which leads me back to question #1 and to the opinion that receiving head is not a risk worth taking, because losing his genitals is as much a male nightmare as losing one's eyesight, so I don't think it's really done (forced, orally) that often.

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A woman would rather die than to get raped

I guess that depends on the situation AND the individual woman.


I would agree with 42, actually. I think the vast majority of humans (not just women), would rather suffer through ANYTHING than die. The urge to survive is the most powerful human compulsion of all.

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I would agree with 42, actually. I think the vast majority of humans (not just women), would rather suffer through ANYTHING than die. The urge to survive is the most powerful human compulsion of all.


I totally disagree and than a lightning hit me: there are no woman at animetric to back me off on this? ><

edit er ... my post was cut in half o.O;

Anyway, my wife just confirmed she would rather die, and I mentioned that also based on a talk a few years ago with a group of people from college and it was unanimous among the girls (7~8 in our group) that they would rather die than either go thru it or worst, live afterwads with it.

Also a recurring theme in movies etc.. woman that are violated have nightmares and serious social/emotional problems the rest of their lives.

That's also why it's so important and taboo the "first time" and virginity concept - at least for non-bitch gals that is xD

Do you all think this is all in vain? I think not.

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Well, I asked a bunch of women at my workplace (7 in all), and they all unanimously agree that they'd rather live and get raped than die. Of course they wouldn't want to get raped in the first place, but if it came down to a choice between the two, they all voted for life.

Perhaps it depends on the cultural upbringing of the girl in question. Now that I think about it, if you asked this question in a strict Muslim country, I'm certain that most girls would choose death, because the social consequences of rape are so extreme in strict Muslim countries that it would have been more merciful if the girl had died.

It's the similar sort of situation in India, where women would rather die than become a widow. Because if you become a widow, you become ostracised from society. Your family (both natural and in-laws) disown you. You are not allowed to work, you are cast out onto the street, and you basically have to beg for a living from a society who sneers at you, spits on you and treats you as no better than a dog. Interviews with many surviving Indian widows show that these women are basically just praying for death to take them, because life is not worth living.

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lol you actually walked around asking this? I don't think I could XD~

Man I watched "Heartwork" or something .. it brings rape to a whole new level: rape AND kill ... how can anyone get aroused by that fails me. Drug the girl + 2 min rape + shot her in the mouth. That was not hentai, that was horror :evil: (and in three episodes, 2 such rape+kill ... WTF?)

Rape now sounds like a walk in the park :?

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Perhaps it depends on the cultural upbringing of the girl in question.

Good point. Hot-blooded southerners might prefer death.
Or at least they'd rather say so, more likely than northerners.

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Drug the girl + 2 min rape + shot her in the mouth. That was not hentai, that was horror

That is horror, I guess. Even I have limits. :D
I mean, when the Chôjin puts his telephone pole inside a nurse and detonates her with a massive load of sperm, that's funny in a way, but rape and murder like you described it... nah, that's too hardcore.

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Man I watched "Heartwork" or something .. it brings rape to a whole new level: rape AND kill ... how can anyone get aroused by that fails me. Drug the girl + 2 min rape + shot her in the mouth. That was not hentai, that was horror :evil: (and in three episodes, 2 such rape+kill ... WTF?)

Reminds me of Bible Black New Testament. A bank robber rapes 2 of the girls working there, he sticks a shotgun in the ass of one of them and he pulls the trigger when he "climaxs" in the other one.

Just warning you. You might not want to watch that one.

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Good point. Hot-blooded southerners might prefer death.
Or at least they'd rather say so, more likely than northerners.


True, might be also relevant that by the time I asked my friends, we were all like 18 and all virgins (....... I think .......), and I think a 18 year old naive virgin would be more willing to die rather than to be raped out of their virginities.

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Just warning you. You might not want to watch that one.


ARG, that was on my "to-download" list ..... oh well one less to download =/

Death and censorship (lol) are the two things that really turns me down in hentai. even with the stupid censor squares it's still rated 18+ so why add that stuff? go figure

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BTW watched "Foxy nudes", good artwork but guess what .. death. Guy rapes girl for two episodes, sniper tries to take him out but hits the girl in the heart ¬¬

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I saw all of "Kisaku" lately, that is the original series plus "Kisaku Spirit".
This article is like "spoiler only", so I'll leave it open. Looks stupid if the text is 90 % hidden...

It's strange in a sense. Kisaku is a monster who rapes all these girls, but still he is loved by two of his victims and the series has some slapstick humor in it.

Like it is already said in the very first moments of the title, Kisaku dies at the end of the first season, which is why the second is called "Spirit". In fact, after raping the girls, the oldest among them, a former porn star gone office lady, breaks out of the blackmailing circle and calls the cops. They arrest him, but one of his lovers comes to his rescue. They dash away in a car, fly off the road and fall down a cliff.

The second season is set a few months later, which is obvious because the housewife that he raped is now very pregnant. Two of his highschool age victims, Shoko and Yuri, are still traumatized, Shoko suffering from nervous breakdowns whenever she spots someone who looks like the perpetrator, and Yuri peeing down her legs on a similar occasion.

Kisaku finds himself being a spirit, a ghost, which means he cannot be seen and cannot touch the victims he would really like to molest again (and again), until a mysterious girl shows up and pushes him into the body of a salaryman named Kusaki who, considering his looks, could be Kisaku's brother. Kusaki, actually a very nice guy, then transforms into Kisaku and the party starts anew.

Fast forward.
During an orgy that includes all of this season's girls the mysterious girl takes Kisaku away. There is no explanation given why she let him do his sinister thing in the first place, but three more strange things happen.

First, after Kisaku's spirit has left Kusaki all the girls fall for him, I guess because he possesses Kisaku's physical endurance and power, but lacks Kisaku's wicked personality. And I was wondering: What became of the girls being traumatized and all? These are a type of characters that Rowena used to call "Hentai Bimbos". In the ending sequence, obviously taking place some time later, because Kusaki has been promoted and the highschool girls have already graduated, you can see all of the female characters being office ladies in Kusaki's section...

Second, due to him being among so many women lately, Kusaki (the once shy salaryman) becomes a lady killer who finds joy in his popularity and goes on pumping the women even though Kisaku's influence is now gone, the difference being that now, suddenly, within seconds, the sex becomes consensual. All the enemas, abuse and rape are forgotten and they enjoy it altogether.

Third, the mysterious girl takes Kisaku away - to Heaven! She puts him down in a beautiful landscape with green grass and trees and flowers and singing birds where he is awaited by his self-proclaimed lover, the woman who helped him escape and also died in the car crash, naked.
Why is this monster going to some sort of heaven? The Japanese are so free from Jewish-Christian ideas ("the good will be praised and the bad will be punished") that I get an idea about how this came into being, but still I find it a bit exaggerated.
On the other hand, Kisaku, as well as his brothers Shusaku and Isaku, might have more fun in hell...

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lol, I watched Kisaku the night before I went on my vacation and I agree with the slapstick, I was laughing most of the time, the funniest part is that every episode (or at least the early episodes) he always find 2 girls very similar (a blond and a brunette) and says "fastfood bitches" and rapes them (and sometimes they than help him, or become in love with him, whatever).

Indeed Kisaku is weird because it's as if those girls like being molested, but this was a very funny title anyway, though the last episodes I though lame because there is another molester and things get weird (oh well, hentai is weird anyway).

Did not watch kisaku spirit, don't intent to though.

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he always find 2 girls very similar (a blond and a brunette)

Those are the same girls, over and over again.
They are the ones who share the story of Kisaku's death, they are raped on the rooftop and they are the ones who work in the restaurant were Kisaku has Yuri suck his d*ck on the toilet, and so on.

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